Inception: icons and meta
Nov. 7th, 2010 10:45 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
bennet_7Is there anything better than a DVD rip leaking a month before the official release?
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Well, Christmas is pretty good. So is winning the lottery. And getting into grad school (which is what I should have been trying to do instead of making icons).
Still, I was pretty pleased when Inception appeared on the internets last weekend as I've been enjoying the hell out of the fandom. Rewatching the film, the flaws I mentioned previously (characterisation, dialogue: Nolan, get better at these!) are still there but they don't diminish my enjoyment of the film overmuch and hopefully it won't fall apart the more I view it.
The quality of this copy isn't the greatest but it was decent enough for me to waste a couple of hours making icons.
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Usual rules apply: comment, credit, don't hotlink, don't re-militarize the Rhineland, be nice to your mother, there is no rule six, live every week like it's shark week.
Caps are my own. My resources.
If you'll allow me a moment's self-indulgence, I'd like to discuss two of these icons. Firstly, this one which, let me just say, there is an essay and a fic on the parallels between Jane Eyre and Inception and husbands who lock up their crazy wives and the young women who discover them. However, I find the idea of Ariadne as Jane squicky as hell so if you are tempted to fic the idea, please have her walk a different path.
Secondly, this was a joke on my part because this scene (where she asks whose subconscious they're going into) is one of the two clunkiest exposition scenes in the film (I think the other is when they get to the third level and she finally gets around to asking if they're killing parts of Fischer's subconscious when they kill a projection). But having thought over it a littlelot, I don't think Ariadne is just the exposition fairy and she has a lot more agency in the film than I first thought. It's her idea to go to limbo after Cobb and Eames have given up, she then shoots Mal, and she gets herself and Fischer back to safety rather than risk more time in limbo helping Cobb with Saito. Honestly, I think she'd shoot the tyres and that's the highest compliment that I have for fictional characters.
Really, someone needs to write about the representation of women in Nolan's films in general. I don't think he's misogynistic but I do think he's sometimes a little neglectful. Ariadne's something of an exception in that she isn't a love interest or a love interest who dies, although YMMV if you're wearing shipper goggles (Natalie from Memento also, maybe, because her relationship with Leonard wasn't really romantic and I haven't seen Insomnia so I can't comment on that (but I do know that Nolan didn't write that script)). I don't see any reason why Eames or Yusuf couldn't have been female (I do think Arthur and Saito needed to be the same gender as Cobb or his close relationships with them might have been hard for the audience to view as strictly platonic and that would have lessened the importance/impact of the loss of Mal (if there's someone waiting in the wings, as it were)). I'm not saying that Nolan needs to shoehorn women in for the sake of flag waving feminism and he's certainly not the biggest offender out there, but considering he makes such big movies that also garner critical respect, it would be nice to see more women in them, doing things other than dying. I hope Ariadne was a step in a better direction.
Am I expecting too much? Is it a day ending in "y"?
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Well, Christmas is pretty good. So is winning the lottery. And getting into grad school (which is what I should have been trying to do instead of making icons).
Still, I was pretty pleased when Inception appeared on the internets last weekend as I've been enjoying the hell out of the fandom. Rewatching the film, the flaws I mentioned previously (characterisation, dialogue: Nolan, get better at these!) are still there but they don't diminish my enjoyment of the film overmuch and hopefully it won't fall apart the more I view it.
The quality of this copy isn't the greatest but it was decent enough for me to waste a couple of hours making icons.
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Caps are my own. My resources.
If you'll allow me a moment's self-indulgence, I'd like to discuss two of these icons. Firstly, this one
which, let me just say, there is an essay and a fic on the parallels between Jane Eyre and Inception and husbands who lock up their crazy wives and the young women who discover them. However, I find the idea of Ariadne as Jane squicky as hell so if you are tempted to fic the idea, please have her walk a different path.Secondly, this
was a joke on my part because this scene (where she asks whose subconscious they're going into) is one of the two clunkiest exposition scenes in the film (I think the other is when they get to the third level and she finally gets around to asking if they're killing parts of Fischer's subconscious when they kill a projection). But having thought over it a Really, someone needs to write about the representation of women in Nolan's films in general. I don't think he's misogynistic but I do think he's sometimes a little neglectful. Ariadne's something of an exception in that she isn't a love interest or a love interest who dies, although YMMV if you're wearing shipper goggles (Natalie from Memento also, maybe, because her relationship with Leonard wasn't really romantic and I haven't seen Insomnia so I can't comment on that (but I do know that Nolan didn't write that script)). I don't see any reason why Eames or Yusuf couldn't have been female (I do think Arthur and Saito needed to be the same gender as Cobb or his close relationships with them might have been hard for the audience to view as strictly platonic and that would have lessened the importance/impact of the loss of Mal (if there's someone waiting in the wings, as it were)). I'm not saying that Nolan needs to shoehorn women in for the sake of flag waving feminism and he's certainly not the biggest offender out there, but considering he makes such big movies that also garner critical respect, it would be nice to see more women in them, doing things other than dying. I hope Ariadne was a step in a better direction.
Am I expecting too much? Is it a day ending in "y"?
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Date: 2010-11-07 03:43 pm (UTC)And yeaaaaaah Nolan has a thing for women dying :/
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Date: 2010-11-07 04:32 pm (UTC)At least he doesn't treat women like they are just sex objects *cough Michael Bay*. Nolan's female characters have personality and a place in the story and plot.
Hell even Steven Spielburg doesn't have many films with major female characters. The only film of his I can think of is The Color Purple.
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Date: 2010-11-07 05:51 pm (UTC)and you have no idea how many I'm going to snag, like... ALL OF THEM. :D
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Date: 2010-11-09 12:41 am (UTC)Still, she is completely focused on the male hero and on helping him instead of having a motivation and journey of her own, and her main trait is being similar to the protagonist and therefor able to understand him so well.(and the male supporting characters are not like that) She's a cool girl because she just gets you(you being a guy).
I think Nolan is noticeably bad at female characters, I'm actually always a little angry after seeing a film of his for this very reason. I really don't buy this "It's just Hollywood. It's just how the world is!" excuse. Nolan doesn't seem willing and able to get into a female character's head at all.
Only thing I disagree with is Ariadne asking about destroying parts of Fischer's mind. This is actually the first time this question makes sense. Obviously it wasn't planned to shoot any projections beforehand. When it becomes necessary they are actually in mortal peril and her thoughts are probably more along the lines of "OMGOMG" than anything else. Most of the killing is done by Arthur and Eames and, in the next level, Cobb, out of Ariadne's sight anyway. On the mountain, Cobb is calmly shooting projections without provocation, which seems a little cruel, and leads you to question - You are not actually doing any harm here, right?
Also, beautiful Icons, I especially love 39 and 41! lol
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Date: 2010-11-10 04:59 am (UTC)"it would be nice to see more women in them, doing things other than dying. I hope Ariadne was a step in a better direction."
Lol, mte, I haven't seen all of Nolan's movies but I've never really been impressed by any of his feminine characters, Nathalie excepted. I think the one character who's got it worse is Batman's mom, I don't think she even gets a line of dialogue and okay, you chose to give Bruce a daddy complex but *come on* she could do something else aside from dying.
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Date: 2010-11-15 02:50 am (UTC)I had a wonderful time with 29! The team was definitely having a collective DOM COBB UZ GOTS SUM 'SPLAINING TO DO moment.
I will credit when I use. ♥
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